Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried made a number of eyebrow-raising statements in a wide-ranging interview conducted over Twitter DMs for more than an hour late Tuesday with Vox reporter Kelsey Piper.
“Fuck regulators,” he said when asked the exchange’s lobby efforts had been mostly public relations. “They make everything worse.”
Piper said that Bankman-Fried had DMed her on Twitter, responding to a message she sent him on Nov. 13 after the company had filed for bankruptcy protection days earlier. She said that she had spoken with him on Zoom earlier in the summer for a profile.
Since troubles for the company spiraled out of control last week, Bankman-Fried has mostly communicated through Twitter in a series of bizarre ramblings. FTX quickly followed the publication of the Vox interview by saying on Twitter that Bankman-Fried had no ongoing role at FTX, FTX US or sister trading firm Alameda Research and did not speak on their behalf.
Bankman-Fried said that he regretted filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection and that “everything would be ~70% fixed right now if I hadn’t.”
“Instead I filed, and the people in charge of it are trying to burn it all to the ground out of shame,” he said. As for what’s next, Bankman-Fried said he had two weeks to raise $8 billion.
“That’s basically all that matters for the rest of my life,” he said. “A month ago I was one of the world’s greatest fundraisers. Now I’m the fallen wreckage of one.”
Notable SBF quotes from the interview:
- “ESG has been perverted beyond recognition,” he said in continued comments about regulation, in which he also said that Office of Foreign Assets Control was “slowly undermining U.S. interests globally and is the single biggest threat to the U.S. being a superpower.”
- “I didn’t want to do sketchy stuff, there are huge negative effects from it and I didn’t mean to. Each individual decision seemed fine and I didn’t realize how big their sum was until the end.”
- “Sometimes life creeps up on you,” he said after saying he thought Alameda had enough collateral to reasonably cover funds it had lent out.
- “Messy accounting + margin exchange,” he said when asked about the origin of the exchange’s troubles
- “More careful accounting + offboard Alameda from FTX once FTX could live on its own,” he said when asked what he’d do if he could do it all over again.
- “It’s complicated,” he said, when pressed as to whether the firm was lending out customer funds. “It wasn’t quite lending them out — it was messier and more organic than that.”
- “Gary is scared, Nishad is ashamed and guilty,” he said, referring to co-founder Gary Wang and director of engineering Nishad Singh.